[MittleiderMethodGardening] Grow-Boxes - Can they be other widths than just 18" or 4' ?

 

Group:  Following is an important dialog about this subject that I recommend everyone study carefully:


"I have a question about four-foot beds. I understand that they are treated as if they were two 18-inch beds, but what is the purpose of the 12 inches in the middle? Does it have any use? Would things work the same if it were a three foot bed?"  Gary Pendrak



Consider the width of aisles between 2 - 18"-wide beds. We recommend they be 3 1/2', or 42". Why? to give the 2 rows of plants in the bed or box room to grow and have sufficient light, etc., as well as providing space for the gardener to get to and care for the plants, of course.

Now, what are you doing by putting 4 rows of plants near t
he outer edges of a 4'-wide box (rows 12" apart, with center space less than 2')? You are trying to maximize the crops you can grow in a given amount of space.  But you have changed the width of the "aisle" between the two sets of rows from 3 1/2' to less than 2'.

Already you have reduced the recommended aisle space between those sets of rows by almost 1/2!  There In order to not HURT your production, you must keep those 4 rows of plants PRUNED more often and diligently than normally accomplished in the 18" soil-beds or Grow-Boxes that are separated by 3 1/2' aisles.

The same holds true for plants grown vertically. in 18" beds or boxes each row of plants (becoming 2 "rows" as they go up the baling twine to opposite sides of the T) occupies 5' of width in the garden, or two rows in 10'. When you put those 2 rows of climbing plants in a 4' box with a 3 1/2' aisle they now occupy 7 1/2'.

You have "saved" 2 1/2' of space in your garden, but it comes with a cost! Less aisle space means more crowded plants, which translates to a requirement for more care and pruning, etc.

LDS Prepper had experience with both 18"-wide boxes and 4'-wide boxes, and I believe he now prefers - and recommends - 18'-wide beds and boxes, for the reasons I've cited above.

Therefore, we suggest you start with 18" beds or boxes if you have the space - and remember you will grow a lot MORE in LESS SPACE using The Mittleider system of growing than you ever did using traditional methods - so don't take on too much.


And we DO NOT recommend you make Grow-Boxes ANY NARROWER than 4', other than the 18" that ARE recommended for everyone !


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Re: [MittleiderMethodGardening] tomato troubles

 

Toms usually want 55f, and some only 50F, but for 4 nights (and days) straight to set fruit.  (Tomatoes need warm temperatures to grow and set fruit.  They are dormant below about 60 degrees.  Ideal temperatures are between 60 and 90 degrees, with a differential of 15+ degrees between night and day - Jim Kennard)

Autumn is the time to buy garden goodies on sale.'
Get a min-max thermometer... preferably with a remote unit.
Outdoor units often need protection from rain, oddly, and sun will mislead them.
Taylor LaCrosse are two big names. Home Depot, OSH, et al have these.

Of course they need fertilization. An old elec toothbrush can sub for a bumblebee.
(Honey bees tend to be unable to fert toms, but can help curcurbits!) (Tomatoes are self-pollinating and need no help other than some movement of the vines occasionally - Jim Kennard)

I assume your CA is adequate.  (Make sure that you have the Pre-Plant Mix in the soil, and that you supplement it every 8 weeks.  Also, add the Weekly Feed before planting and weekly thereafter.  Applications are 1 oz/ft for PP and 1/2 oz/ft for WF - Jim Kennard

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[MittleiderMethodGardening] tomato troubles

 

Now that is is harvest time, all my plants are really struggling. They have been healthy all summer, but now they are very yellow. My cucumbers have TONS of flowers but won't produce. This is the same for my cherry tomatoes. They have TONS of flowers but won't produce. My large tomato plants have lots of tomatoes on them, but the plants look like they are dying. I will include a picture below. Any suggestions would be appreciated. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

What is the temperature like? Are nights cold? The plants you named are warm-weather plants and don't produce new fruit when nights get cold. Also, when it gets cold the plants cannot take up the nutrients, even when they are in the soil, and so they will get yellow (starved for nutrition).

Also, are you still feeding and watering them the same? Because of the above factors, and so as not to waste fertilizer, we recommend people stop fertilizing everbearing plants 8 weeks before killing frost.

Jim Kennard

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[MittleiderMethodGardening] Re: Mittleider Gardening Certification Boot Camp - August 15-20, Kidder MO - One Opening

 

Yesterday's opening has been filled, but again this morning we received a call that one or our Boot Camp participants has had a family emergency and won't be able to attend. 


This opens up one more spot - anyone able to join us? It happens ONE WEEK from tomorrow (arrival time), with the training beginning Monday morning at 8 sharp.

To take advantage of this LAST OPPORTUNITY this year to attend the Mittleider Gardening Certification Training Boot Camp - in Kidder, Missouri, go to http://growfood.com/…/mittleider-gardening-training-boot-c…/.

We'll see a lucky one of you in 8 days!

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[MittleiderMethodGardening] Re: Mittleider Gardening Certification Boot Camp - August 15-20, Kidder MO - One Opening

 

And it's gone.  Congratulations to Robert from Colorado.  We'll see you in 9 days!!


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[MittleiderMethodGardening] Mittleider Gardening Certification Boot Camp - August 15-20, Kidder MO - One Opening

 

Friends:


We just had a cancellation for participation in this month's Boot Camp, due to a family emergency.  This has opened up a spot. I recommend anyone who is interested act FAST, as it will be gone quickly. Go to http://growfood.com/.../mittleider-gardening-training.../


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[MittleiderMethodGardening] Aughh! Help!

 

SOMEthing is eating my broccoli. And sweet potato leaves.  No, not worms we've got few holes in leaves, instead the whole leaf, part of the stem and now the broccoli HEADS are missing!  We just had a good rain so there is soft earth around the boxes and no tunnels, paw or hoofprints.  No telltale little piles of poop, just a few crumbs of broccoli head in the dirt...not even any shredded leaf parts or pieces...whatever it is is making off with whole, foot-long leaves and 4-inch heads. Someone suggested cranes, but we are in town and they would have plenty of easy pickings further from people...it's been a good lush year here so the wildlife are less pesky than usual...or they were until now. We have had a murder of crows in the area...they fledged about five youngsters two weeks ago...and the damaged plants are all located so they could perch on the edge of the box to reach them....any ideas?

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[MittleiderMethodGardening] Last Chance to Get The World's Best Gardening Training!

 

Would you like to be involved in building a geo-air greenhouse and learn the skills to have a garden your family could live from? Would you like to get away from all the distractions of home and office and focus on honing your gardening skills and have your room and board included? If so join Jim Kennard and myself in Kidder Missouri from August 15-20, 2016. (Limited seating available)

If you are at all interested please don't wait to register. ½ of the seats are already taken. Register today at http://LDSPrepper.com/August15

Don't miss the last opportunity this year to learn how simple and rewarding a successful garden can be. We cover all gardening questions: bugs, diseases, nutrient deficiencies, minimizing water use, year-round gardening, garden planning & prep, proper pruning, and much more.

You'll be taught by Jim Kennard, president of the Food for Everyone Foundation and David Gillmore, certified master Mittleider gardening instructor. Save hundreds or even thousands of dollars and years of trial and error. Join us starting August 15, 2016 for an information packed, fun filled week in Kidder, MO.

Watch this video for more details: https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=5DL1IyA4ey0

Use this link today to register: http://LDSPrepper.com/August15

If you have any questions, please call or text me at 208-360-5384. I can be reached from 8am-10pm M-S and 1pm-10pm Sundays.

Jim and I look forward to seeing you Kidder next month.

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[MittleiderMethodGardening] Re: World's Best Gardening Training Boot Camp - PLUS Geo-Thermal Year-Round Greenhouse

 

I neglected to give you the link to David's ldsprepper video that explains the Boot Camp Training.


Here it is:

Gardening Made Simple Training August 15, 2016

 



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[MittleiderMethodGardening] World's Best Gardening Training Boot Camp - PLUS Geo-Thermal Year-Round Greenhouse

 

Friends:


We have scheduled the final 2016 Mittleider Gardening Certification Training Boot Camp for August 15-20 in Kidder, Missouri, and it is going to be amazing!


A large Mittleider garden is in place and growing like crazy - you'll love being in this garden!


Seedlings are growing, and will be ready for transplanting - in the garden AND in the year-round Geo-Thermal (think geo-air!) greenhouse.


I will be personally working with the small select group of people lucky enough to get into the training program, and David Gillmore, who has recently earned his Certified Master Mittleider Gardening Instructor certificate will be at my side the entire week.


We have created a special offer for the next few days only!  Go to Growfood.com » Mittleider Gardening Certification Training "Boot Camp" – August 15-20, 2016 to get this $600 training for only $450, but HURRY, we always fill up, and this bargain will not last!

Here is what David has to say about the training.  You can follow the link above, or by clicking on David's Affiliate link provided in the ldsprepper video below he will receive the credit.  Either way, if you hurry you can get the $450 special price.


http://growfood.com/shop/mittleider-gardening-training-boot-camp-preparedness-university/ 


 

 

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